Yeah, I think that one is mostly about American cities where beautiful dense city centers have been bulldozed to make space for endless car lots and now you can't get anywhere on foot anymore.
@fishidwardrobe I think that line is more referring to places where new suburbs are being built without schools or shops, because "you can just drive to them"
But yeah, the generalisation of it makes it seem silly
@SuperTaliaDX Well, yes, but that only works if you are building on a featureless plane with weird zoning laws. It's probably true in parts of the US? But here in the UK it would be "no, you can't build the houses closer to the city. There's a 14th century church / river / gas plant / protected woodland / Saxon burial mound / 'not really a mountain but certainly a famous hill' there, and anyway, don't the existing houses have shops you can walk to?"
Excellent point. In my experience, new Dutch neighbourhoods always come with a shopping center and a set of schools. This has always seemed to me like such an obvious way to do it, that I sometimes forget the US doesn't do it that way. People need to be forced into their cars.
@mcv Australia does it too, which is where I see it. New suburbs are *supposed* to have all these things, doctors surgeries and schools and shops, but they just... Don't. Many of them don't even get bus routes for a few years, because the developers don't work with the council to make it happen. They're also creating huge heat islands. They're just all around bad.
What also makes biking dangerous is the incessant, flagrant violation of basic traffic laws like stopping at stop signs, as well as commonsense behaviors like hand signals to alert other drivers what a cyclist’s intentions are at turns, etc.
The incredible mystery about cyclists continues to be the wearing of helmets and use of blinking red lights for safety but then the guaranteed violation of stop-sign, and often red traffic light laws. It destroys any argument cyclists make.
and yet when places implement Idaho stop laws (legalising cyclists treating stop signs as yield signs - only have to stop if there's cross traffic - and red lights as stop signs - stop but then proceed while it's still red if there's no cross traffic) cyclist injuries reduce, not increase.
What's happening, in other words, is that they're not riding dangerously, they're riding in keeping with the different safety properties of the bicycle and you don't like it.
Absolutely. Cars dominate our cities, making biking dangerous, public transit slow, and distances too far to walk. This, paired with our ultra-processed culture, has likely contributed to 73.6% of American adults being overweight or obese (CDC). We’ve designed our lives around convenience and speed—and it’s hurting our health.
But imagine the supermarket was so close you could easily walk there every day. Mine is. I've got two supermarkets within a few hundred meters, and 5 within 2 km.
And I could drive there (it has underground parking), but I don't because what's the point?
@argv_minus_one @mcv I bike to my local grocery store. I have a couple of bike saddlebags. I can’t do all my week’s shopping at once so I go every 3 days or so but that’s fine. It’s only a 15-minute ride away.
Fish Id Wardrobe
Als Antwort auf anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖 • • •Martijn Vos
Als Antwort auf Fish Id Wardrobe • •@Fish Id Wardrobe
Yeah, I think that one is mostly about American cities where beautiful dense city centers have been bulldozed to make space for endless car lots and now you can't get anywhere on foot anymore.
Fish Id Wardrobe mag das.
Talia, girt by gays
Als Antwort auf Fish Id Wardrobe • • •@fishidwardrobe I think that line is more referring to places where new suburbs are being built without schools or shops, because "you can just drive to them"
But yeah, the generalisation of it makes it seem silly
Fish Id Wardrobe
Als Antwort auf Talia, girt by gays • • •Martijn Vos
Als Antwort auf Talia, girt by gays • •@Tal⚘a
Excellent point. In my experience, new Dutch neighbourhoods always come with a shopping center and a set of schools. This has always seemed to me like such an obvious way to do it, that I sometimes forget the US doesn't do it that way. People need to be forced into their cars.
Talia, girt by gays mag das.
Talia, girt by gays
Als Antwort auf Martijn Vos • • •They're just all around bad.
Brian Dear
Als Antwort auf anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖 • • •What also makes biking dangerous is the incessant, flagrant violation of basic traffic laws like stopping at stop signs, as well as commonsense behaviors like hand signals to alert other drivers what a cyclist’s intentions are at turns, etc.
The incredible mystery about cyclists continues to be the wearing of helmets and use of blinking red lights for safety but then the guaranteed violation of stop-sign, and often red traffic light laws. It destroys any argument cyclists make.
dragonfrog
Als Antwort auf Brian Dear • • •and yet when places implement Idaho stop laws (legalising cyclists treating stop signs as yield signs - only have to stop if there's cross traffic - and red lights as stop signs - stop but then proceed while it's still red if there's no cross traffic) cyclist injuries reduce, not increase.
What's happening, in other words, is that they're not riding dangerously, they're riding in keeping with the different safety properties of the bicycle and you don't like it.
Full Metal Accountant hat dies geteilt.
DharmaWalker
Als Antwort auf anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖 • • •Raven Luni
Als Antwort auf anna_lillith 🇺🇦🌱🐖 • • •Martijn Vos
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • •@argv minus one
But imagine the supermarket was so close you could easily walk there every day. Mine is. I've got two supermarkets within a few hundred meters, and 5 within 2 km.
And I could drive there (it has underground parking), but I don't because what's the point?
Misuse Case
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •