What is your favorite browser? Feel free to share why.

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  • Vivaldi (16%, 802 Stimmen)
  • Chrome (4%, 243 Stimmen)
  • Edge (2%, 101 Stimmen)
  • Safari (16%, 804 Stimmen)
  • Firefox (60%, 3022 Stimmen)
  • Opera (1%, 53 Stimmen)
  • Other (12%, 643 Stimmen)
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Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Vivaldi on android is the only one that does tabs right IMO with the tab bar.
Firefox is nice because it's one of the only ones not using chromium or WebKit and with, finally, vertical tabs I am pretty happy using it on desktop again.
And Vivaldi and Zen Browser because of the amazing split screen feature.
But I prefer Zens sidebar tabs and the fact its also based on Gecko.

So for me it's Zen and Firefox on Desktop and Vivaldi on Android.
Which makes me unable to use sync :/

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I like Firefox and Vivaldi.

FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sections of the provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.

Vivaldi has a ton of features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.

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Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

For me I use both Vivaldi and firefox.

I like Vivaldi cause its all about customizability and has decent privacy.

I like firefox because it doesn't have to have chromiums bad choices (not including jpegxl, manifest v3, etc). Of the course the defaults aren't the best, but it is also very customizable (even if its harder to customize than Vivaldi).

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I don't have a favorite browser at the moment. The one I currently use is brave, but there are several things about it that I don't like.

I've yet to find a browser that doesn't break my workflow in a critical way that also isn't brave.

I have several manifest v2 extensions that I'm not going to be giving up.

So until a browser has a tab discard mechanism that can be configured to not auto un-discard a tab on focus, and has a way to force immediate discarding, brave is where I stay.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Hi @jon

As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.

Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:

1. Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
2. RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
3. Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.

Vivaldi, on the other hand, has a special place in my heart for its unique and productivity-oriented features:

1. Page Tiling: A brilliant tool for working with multiple pages side by side—ideal for multitaskers.
2. Plain Text/Markdown Notes: This feature is a gem for academic researchers and avid readers like me, making it easy to jot down notes directly from web pages.
3. Web Panels: Super handy for accessing frequently used sites without leaving your main tabs.
4. Customizable Dashboard: A lovely productivity hub and a virtual assistant.

A Few Observations

While Vivaldi excels in many areas, there are a couple of things I’d like to highlight:

High RAM Usage: Vivaldi can be quite demanding on memory.
Text-to-Speech Feature: Adding a natural and seamless "Read Aloud" feature would make it even more user-friendly.

Cheers 😊

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Floorp or firedragon. They give me the customization. firedragon has the Librawolf privacy script implemented.  They both have the speed hacks implemented with the push of a button if that’s your thing. 

But at the end of the day, every single browser sucks so pick your poison. None of them are good. They either are gecko or blink with some sugar on top.

Yes, I know servo and LadyBird are coming, but they’re not here yet so they’re not part of the discussion 

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Firefox on Desktop, Vivaldi on mobile.

Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.

Firefox (preferably forks) on desktop fully because of the UI being open source, no slight against Vivaldi for that, I fully understand the reasoning for not doing so. I just prefer open source so I bias towards as much as possible of it when not overly difficult to do so.

I do not trust Mozilla, more open source nature of the app allows me to take trust of ownership out of the equation a bit, especially so with forks.

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Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I use Vivaldi on my Mac because it has a Chromium base, so it has a lot of compatibility benefits that provides, while also providing good privacy and a great experience that I can customize to work how I want it. I used to be a large proponent of Firefox, but I don’t like their recent modus operi of shoving god-knows what into the browser.

I also really like Safari. It’s a great mobile browser, and even on the Mac it gives me good battery life, and syncs across all my Apple devices.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I have and like Firefox and have used it off and on for years. It also comes standard with Ubuntu, which is the OS I'm currently using. However, I've had some issues with it playing streaming content, so I installed Chromuim (open source browser based on Chrome), and that's what I use most and like a lot. I also have used all the others listed and a few more as well. They're all basically functional. The main issue is privacy, but I haven't been that concerned about it as much as I should.
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

For me on Windows performance is more or less the same for all the above browsers. Edge is decent and do all what the average user needs. I like Vivaldi because is tweakable (I like the idea of the mail client but something on the UI doesn't work for me, maybe I'm only used with Outlook). Firefox because I use it since it was Phoenix and I'm so sorry it is dieing.
Als Antwort auf Rob

@rob @zbrando

The mail client has a learning curve, one we are always trying to reduce. On the other hand, it can save you a lot of time, once you get used to it.

A few things to note:
1. You should not have to move mails to folders. Finding mails is generally fast without the need of folders.
2. For each folder, you can decide what to show in that folder when it comes to stuff like read mails, mailing lists, trash, etc. Once you have set that up to your liking, you will save a lot of time and it is a lot less work than to move mails between folders all the time.
3. Important shortcuts : G to mark a mail as read and go to the next one. E to view mail to and from a contact, T to view a thread.
4. Vivaldi differentiates between unseen and unread mails. Unseen are new mails while unread mails are mails you have not marked as read yet.

I know these are new concepts, but there is a reason a lot of us cannot do without this.

Als Antwort auf zbrando

@zbrando @rob

If you have more details on what you prefer in the Outlook UI, feel free to share that with me. Always interested in feedback.

If you want to have the mail client in a separate window, the easiest way is just to have a separate install where you run the mail client.

Other than that, finding the mail tab is easy if you click a folder in the mail panel. You can also pin the mail tab so it is always in the left corner.

There is a bit of learning curve here and it will be different from Outlook, but IMHO it is worth it.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I use Vivaldi but I would really like to see more attention to quality. Breaking things randomly in minor releases and then taking half a year to fix them is not okay, guys. A public issue tracker would also help, instead of the scream-into-the-void bug report form. I understand that you've taken everything from the old Opera team, but this part should've been left behind.
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I use a plethora of browsers.

I'm migrating fron Firefox to LibreWolf (sorry, I prefer non-chrome based browsers), but have a Ungoogled Chromium as a backup those times Firefox/LibreWolf doesn't cut it (I thought the world had learnt a lesson from the IE days; seems we need to educate a new generation web hipsters).

On Android I use the default browser (in @e_mydata) for a few news/blog sites, Mull and Vivaldi for some other sites and DuckDuckGo when searching. Default browser is Mull with Privacy Mode enabled by default.

I honestly don't like that the Chrome based browsers seems to be dominating these days. We need a heterogeneous web render environment to ensure a single dominant player dictates how things will be for users.

And without such competition, I fear there will be a lesser drive to further improve browsers. Just like when Netscape seemed too complacent with their own browsers back in the days.

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Jon S. von Tetzchner

@schnedan ,

We have found that having things integrated has significant benefits, but of course there is a bit of getting used to. Give it a try!

As a side note, it is easy to run multiple instances of Vivaldi, so you can run Mail, Calendar and Feeds in one instance and most of your Web browsing in another. There is flexibility here.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I hate them all for different reasons. Here are my requirements:

  1. Ad blocker should be the default, no matter what corporations think.
  2. It should be possible to inspect and manipulate the code in real time.
  3. It should be FOSS.
  4. It should not force feed proprietary technologies or antifeatures.
  5. It should not require gazillion of RAM or storage. Why I would need 100-150 MB just for a text?
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I currently use:

Firefox on the desktop
Librewolf on the Linux laptop
Waterfox on my main phone

Vivaldi on my other persona on desktop, laptop and second phone.

Also going to try Floop and Zen.

Ostensibly I want to use Firefox forks but I find Vivaldi pretty cool despite being Chromium, especially on mobile.

TBH, none of them are ideal. I'd love to have one browser with multiple profiles across multiple devices, but I find that doesn't work for me.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I choose Vivaldi as my favorite because I like many things about it. I use my home computer now for recipes, cash spreadsheets, and a shopping list. I had not previously used social media and this is a nice surprise for me to enjoy it. I used Netscape before Metacrawler and then I used shelves of books until trying Firefox. I used Chrome then Edge before I retired, but used Firefox and DuckDuckGo on home computers until I noticed Vivaldi about two years ago and put it on my home computer and laptop and cellphone. I like its many options and features and forums full of answers to questions I might ever need ask! It gives me a calendar and note and task pads and all sorts of things which optionally can sync and be seen when I use the browser on my cellphone or to choose not to sync. The very best is, when I removed Windows Operating System from my old laptop and replaced it with one of the Linux distributions now this Vivaldi continues to give me my familiar user experience. Thank you, to all and everyone who is and who are responsible for allowing me this user experience which followed me between operating systems, thank you.
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

to say that mozilla drove firefox into the ground is an understatement, but right now gecko/firefox (and derivatives) is the only engine/browser that is a viable alternative to blink/chromium monopoly.
in its current state, webkit doesn't stand a chance. plus, i can't live without firefox container tabs and ublock origin.

TL;DR: all browsers suck and i have no favorite, but firefox sucks the least and it is my browser of choice for most things.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

- on desktop/android: Brave, current chromium based, open source, excellent ad blocking, with the dumb crypto stuff and any "phoning home" easy to turn off, the only one to pass all parts of EFF's browser privacy test, and no embedded tracker libraries. Downside: I do not like the ethics of their CEO.
2nd place on desktop: Librewolf, a current Firefox fork, with the telemetry back to Mozilla turned off.
2nd place on android: Pluma, very lightweight, with good ad blocking
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Firefox because of its tweaks. I admire what Vivaldi has achieved, but Firefox can achieve almost the same with extensions. The only thing missing in Firefox are native tab groups, but they are a work in progress according to their site.

If Firefox vanished tomorrow, I would quite likely use Vivaldi. I was an Opera user in the old days. Vivaldi is the only browser that follows that spirit today.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

OK, I tried them. They are nice to have, but for users who manage many tabs at the same time. It is not my case.

One thing I like a lot about Firefox is the about:config page. My main change is content.notify.backoffcount > 0. It stops the browser partial refreshes, and shows a web page only when its parts finished loading. In my experience, it makes the browsing faster and more comfortable for my eyes.

It could be a nice switch to have in Vivaldi too.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

(Although Chromium-based browsers' main selling point is speed.)

Firefox does not have tab groups or workspaces (yet?) but you can mimic the experience with Sidebery.

Related links:
kb.mozillazine.org/Content.not…
addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firef…

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.

Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I found out that also Edge is quite nice. Very friendly, the tabs can be moved to the side position, the same panel as in Vivaldi, excellent translator. But there is not so easy to switch between search engines, also not so easy to switch to the main workspace, and there's almost no Speed Dial.
I've been living with Edge (on macOS, imagine) for some months when Vivaldi has several annoying bugs, but later I came back to Vivaldi, and now Edge is my second browser, for some different cases 😀 Good luck!
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

It IS pretty good, sure. At the very least it doesn't randomly block my own collabora server unlike uBlock Origin.

But ultimately it's just not good enough. So the day I can't run uBlock Origin, my browsing experience will be immediately horrible

This is VERY MUCH a deal breaker. Overnight the browser will become essentially unusable. And I know because I use the mobile version already where I can't install an adblocker and... yeah, it sucks

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I like Vivaldi as it reminds me of when I was using Opera around 2008. It has any embedded things like a Feed reader, email, translation and such.

Compatible with Chrome extensions and with vertical tabs.

Also Edge was good enough to work, and now I have to use Chrome which is pretty standard to be productive.

I use Zen for personal stuff and I get a similar feeling as a better Firefox after it self destroyed for me.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

#vivaldibrowser is by far the best. It saves me so much time. I need to have many tabs open in several windows in several virtual desktops in several monitors. Workspaces, tabs stacking and tab search are lifesavers. The quick search has a built-in calculator that I use all the time. It's the most innovative and customizable browser there is. Sync is flawless. I use it in Mac, Windows and Android.

#Edge would be my 2nd choice. I like how fast it loads in my old Windows laptop, probably because it's pre-loaded. I like the way Bing presents the search results and the Copilot integration. I love the read-aloud feature. It recognizes the language automatically and it sounds very natural.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Because 'Vivaldi' is simply the world's best browser for me.

Especially on 'Linux'.
And has been for a long time.

I think it's also worth taking a closer look at the 'Vivaldiserve' behind it. 😉

Currently Firefox in first place, then Safari just ahead of Vivaldi here. :tony_unhappy:

I think many people here have simply not yet looked at Vivaldi for all platforms.
Based on 'Chromium', 100% open source.

:tony_happy: :tony_smiling: :tony_wee:

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Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Many, many comments here. :tony_laughing:

So a lot of interest in this question.
No wonder really, here on 'Mastodon'.

Veery good. :tony_wee:

Maybe someone else is interested in digging through here. 😉 😉

I'm sure several people will take a closer look at the 'Vivaldiserve' afterwards.
vivaldi.com

:tony_smiling: :tony_happy:

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Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

@Gargron even though it’s more or less been EOL’d, Arc is by far and away my favorite browser I’ve ever used. Every little UX detail just makes so much sense to me. The chromeless UI, sidebar vertical tabs, folder/favorite/pinned tab organization, auto-archiving tabs, tab spaces, automatic PiP activation, quick actions in the ⌘+T omnibar…
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.

It’s a very sad state of affairs.

@Karen5Lund

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Good relationship maerketing.
I used Firefox for many years, and I loved it. Before, I was a Netscape user. But Firefox's performance deteriorated over the years, and I switched to Chrome. When I discovered Brave, I moved to it, but it also had some issues, so I´m back to Chrome. Performance and productivity features are great. I am just very aware of data protection issues when using Google products. Still, use Firefox and Brave for some activities. Would Vivaldi be a good alternative?
Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

Vivaldi is my choice.

Here's why: It's the only browser which doesn't force users into AI or is fully relying on ads. It's the only browser I can donate to per month or year (I won't count Mozilla/Firefox in cause Firefox is a product of the commercial part of Mozilla).
Finally: Vivaldi is the only browser company I know of which is owned by the employees.

I'd prefer to have a fully open source browser but I do understand the reason why Vivaldi isn't.

Als Antwort auf Jon S. von Tetzchner

日本語で書きます。翻訳サイトなど使ってください。
Firefoxは唯一日本語IMEの動作を正しく行ってくれます。なので文節などの変換が見やすく、安心できます。拡張が多くても不安定になりにくいです。Quantumは正しい判断だったと思います。

Chromium系(Elctronも)IMEの処理がおざなりで点線出しとけはいいだろうとしかとれない動作画面です。たまに文節区切りを見失いますし変なところになることがあります。

あとは垂直タブがあるかどうかで、その垂直タブもタブ同士の親子関係が表せられないと意味がないです。
ということでFirefox+Tree Style Tabが使いやすく、その次にVivaldiが来ます。

Als Antwort auf Fluchtkapsel

@fluchtkapsel

I wish I could have used Presto, but sadly that is not an option. The Presto code was much better in many ways that both Gecko and Blink. It was all in one. Very little 3rd party code. It compiled in a couple of minutes on a slow computer.

At this time the Chromium codebase is the best available.

Clearly there is a lot more to a browser than just the core and we modify the core as needed as well, so I hope you see we are providing something special here.