@tobi from a legal perspective, the traditional response is "we refer you to Arkell v Pressdram, 1971" -which then requires any unfamiliar with that precedent to look it up before discovering the response is "fuck off"
In April 1971, Private Eye carried the story of how James Arkell, a retail credit manager, had dispensed with the services of two bailiffs who were on bail on charges of conspiracy to create a publ…
That email address appears it might have a unique username component, associated just with this case or a specific office. I suspect Roskomnadzor has dealt with email bombs before.
Thank you for posting this and thank you for your excellent response.
There's no end to how insidious Russian manipulation is in trying to shift views, and there's much too much apologia for it online — including on the Fediverse.
Being open and transparent about it like this is super helpful in combating it.
@rhys i've been seeing a rising wave of russian propaganda in the streets, too. people are putting up pro-russian street art in here in the united states, especially near towns with Trump stores. i can't prove a connection, but i have my suspicions that this is no accident. it's really important right now that if you have the power to do so, start putting out anti-authoritarian propaganda in physical space
@erosdiscordia @rhys it really is. it makes me feel a little hopeless about being ever able to reach people again, but it also gives me a shred of hope. this tells us that the people who are winning the propaganda wars think the kinds of propaganda we can create and disseminate the easiest works. it also gets me thinking about where i see the most christofascist messaging: on street corners. well guess what!? we got posterboards and magic markers, too.
@FlexFoot @erosdiscordia @rhys there's some chance it's deliberately designed to split society, and run by russian assets. I'm sure things are bad in America but it's in a lot of people's interest to make them appear even worse than they are.
I do think Russian propaganda is in large part designed to cultivate a sense of hopelessness in people, and make them feel like it isn't worth trying to fight back.
The players behind all that crap do have power, but are way weaker than they want anyone to believe.
We are talking about decentralisation, but what exactly will happen if, for example, Russia blocks server X. Will people in Russia who are on server A be able to continue reading accounts on server X?
@tessarakt @th3rdsergeevich Roskomnadzor - Russian commission of monitoring, censoring and controlling the mass media. They are extremely aggressive since the 2022, banning tv shows, apps, books, movies, closing sites, reporting and sending violation reports and etc. They are extremely annoying
If we do need to comply with Hetzner on this, I'm gonna look into an option to get mstdn.social in-home, like literally so they won't be able to touch anything
But that's a last resort since I do not have the hardware not money for that currently
If it comes to migrating the service away because of politically motivated cease and desist, then I would not be surprised if a provider like @freedominternet is more than happy to help you out. Their dedication to having an open and accessible internet aligns pretty well with this, after all. Before going the route of self-hosting stuff, I would give them a call.
look into the cybergeek brand on amazon. you’d be amazed at what 550$ can get you. Do it quick before drumpf causes the prices to treble. Don’t be afraid to ask users to help you with it. I’d throw a 20$ bill your way just for shits and giggles.
I guess Hetzner just forwards it without any opinion. I wouldn't panic. Russia doesn't have any jurisdiction in Germany or the Netherlands. It's pure bluff.
ehh Really wonder if anybody expected something to happen or some poor being just got hit by falling sh..-I mean order- so he/she just requested deletinon.
Maybe we can try to order them to get out of ukraine in 24hrs. Or maybe in 72 if they leave some vodka on current possitions...
Tell them that if they want to contact you they can download a Windows .exe file that functions (allegedly) as random number generator. That is, after all, what they ask others to do who wish to contact them.
KrebsOnSecurity recently had occasion to contact the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Sent some money to help with the hosting costs because of this. Thank you for hosting mstdn.social, all the time you put into it, and dealing with harassment like this.
but every media outlet should really have their own server on the fedi. this is our killer app for journalistic freedom. why AP should win.
it's why I always bring up @mondoweiss already running their own server. I'm sure they are constantly pissing off the Israeli govt, who will spin such stories as antisemitic and probably convince a few admins of that view.
we can't have access to important stories going viral dictated by a few rich people, VCs or corporate interests.
Le gouvernement russe a demandé la suppression du compte @Bellingcat sur mstdn.social, ce qui soulève des inquiétudes quant à la censure croissante sur les réseaux sociaux. Ce développement met en lumière les défis auxquels sont confrontées les plateformes indépendantes face à la pression gouvernementale pour censurer le contenu critique. 🔒📉 #Censure #LibertéDExpression #Bellingcat
I don't see any recent post about Russia or Ukraine in @Bellingcat 's timeline. Is there anything I've been missing ? Or is it a long prepared war against any potential threat to the Kremlin's crappy propaganda ?
This action, again performed under his leadership, again "create[s] a censored information space that promotes, aids and condones the Russian armed aggression against Ukraine."
I would propose reporting this to the appropriate Commission service.
@John invites you to join this server of Mastodon! With an account, you will be able to follow people, post updates and exchange messages with users from any Mastodon server and more!
"They are doing it as we sit here." Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III
"Russia, Russia, Russia, it was all a hoax, fake news" D. tRump An Exhaustive Compendium of Russian Collusion & US Election Intrusions and Propaganda tinyurl.com/5a3raftm
The Open Observatory of Network Interference (OONI) confirmed the blocking of at least 279 foreign and local independent news media domains in Russia this year, doubling the number of organizations identified in a previous report.
TBH, if Hetzner take action on that and not the ddos sources in their network, something is going seriously wrong. I agree with the others on this, roscomnadzor are just trying their luck. They have zero teeth outside Russia.
@benroyce @ZySoua @tessarakt @th3rdsergeevich I disagree. Nazgul were once the greatest kings, while Roskomnadzor is just a bunch of assclowns who don't let people have fun
Как бы мне не не нравилось то, как организована работа РКН, и то, какие указания спускаются им сверху.
Но считают отличной дискредитацией самих себя, начав с оскорблений в ответ на вежливое письмо. Даже с учётом того, что в письме действительно нет точного указания, что именно на странице нарушает закон. Начать стоит как минимум с ответного письма с попыткой узнать что именно не так (кто знает, может быть на странице действительно было что то плохое?) И уже не получив ответа начать вонять.
А так вы просто показываете себя как простого невежду.
I wonder if Hetzner is acting legally in responding to the Russian state; perhaps they should check that with their lawyers; would it be counted as 'technical assistance'?
Hahaha, and then russia wonders why they are so hated. Censoring people who can't even control. As a member of NAFO, this looks like another prime example of the kremlin's intellectual weakness. Pathetic. @stux @Bellingcat
@trebach @stevel @tobi another good one, albeit longer is Kurt Denke's reply when Monster came knocking on the door of his audio cable company. First he tears them a new one on technical matters then comes *this*
"Not only am I unintimidated by litigation; I sometimes rather miss it."
Roskomnadzor is a designated entity in the EU. Is Hetzner doing anything with their demands other than ignoring them or immediate refusal not material support?
Send Putin the Russian joke about Stalin's pipe: Stalin can't find his pipe, so he calls in Beria, his head of the secret police. Stalin says, "Beria, someone stole my pipe. Find the guy." Beria says, "I'll get right on it." About a half hour later, Stalin calls Beria back and says, "You can call off your dogs. The pipe fell being my desk." Beria says, "What a pity. We have 13 suspects and 12 have already confessed."
fuck that Putin asshole and his request. However, given that I heard about at least three instances of "hetzner decided to cancel my contract and deleted my data after just one email", I would advise for backups that are not hosted on hetzner and maybe a rough idea where you would like to host if hetzner drops you. Also, a good time to get your domain name recovery codes etc etc.
@chx @trebach @stevel @tobi I had to look up Collateral Estoppel, so. #TIL about Non-Mutual-Defensive #CollateralEstoppel where by "a defendant attempts to prevent a plaintiff from re-litigating an issue that was previously decided against the plaintiff in another lawsuit against a different party."
To put it another way, if Mr. Denke's defense was successful, and ruled on in his case, then Monster Cable couldn't attempt to use that failed issue against a different cable manufacturer when Monster Cable sued them for alleged Patent and Trade dress infringement.
Collateral estoppel defined and explained with examples. Collateral estoppel is a legal doctrine that bans re-litigating issues already decided in a prior case.
What a terrible loss it would be, if CIAcat's account was removed. Better stomp your feet on the ground and show them evil Russians that only US can dictate here.
Thank you for standing up for this, and for telling us about this going on!
This is like... what the Fediverse is made for, that the people who run it and the people who use it are at the same level instead of some weird corporation doing awful stuff behind closed doors..
1. As others noted: they didn't cite any broken law or offending text. Without any of this, IMHO Hetzner should just drop such a complaint.
2. As @Bellingcat is clearly a journalistic account, they have the protection of Art 5 GG. Even if you're not from Germany, Hetzer is and therefore this applies. Yes, this is meant for the state, but it should be applied to companies as well.
3. Ping some German journalists to push it to the general public.
Please let us know what's happening in the coming days. I'm using a few #Hetzner services and if they decide to act like a ruSSian propaganda puppet I'll move all my data to somewhere else, let them know why I did it and tell others about it.
Hi! Russian here, they are just bullying or looking for more reasons to ban hetzner or Mastodon server in Russia (since their argument only makes sense in Russian regime's "law"). I think Hetzner is smart enough not to take any actions based on that joke of a reasoning (I'm looking at you, Apple!).
This is just the latest in a string of problems I've been hearing about with Hetzner as a hosting provider: perhaps you should consider moving. If @Bellingcat needs to go somewhere else, or wants to create a mirror somewhere, there are plenty of servers that would be happy to do so, with hosting companies that will have an immediate middle finger response to any requests for takedowns by the Russian government.
That’s great news in regards to the update. I really worried that they somehow managed to wrangle their way into copyright strike routines, but I guess it was an intimidation tactics in confines of Russian law.
@chx Denke's letter I kept up in my office for years as a kind of reminder of "personal principles" and for it's reminder of the joys of collateral estoppel (as a kind of follow on joy to benefits of taking things to the discovery phase). Bullies deserve drubbing. With brutality and malice on a scale to instill nothing but an event horizon of deterrent fear.
keep up the good work. Send them my standard reply:
I have given this offer more consideration than it is due already. Now, fuck off. Then keep fucking off. Fuck off until you come up to a gate with a sign saying ‘You Can’t Fuck Off Past Here.’ Climb over the gate, dream the impossible dream, and keep fucking off forever.
stux⚡
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Dear Putler,
Go fuck yourself to hell.
Sincerely
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hackbyte (friendica) 13HB1 und Josh mögen das.
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Tobi
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Martin Vermeer FCD hat dies geteilt.
tessarakt
Als Antwort auf Tobi • • •teilten dies erneut
Witchzilla, Fabian Laasch ⚡️🔋 und Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA haben dies geteilt.
tessarakt
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Cainmark Does Not Comply 🚲 hat dies geteilt.
Steve Loughran
Als Antwort auf Tobi • • •@tobi from a legal perspective, the traditional response is "we refer you to Arkell v Pressdram, 1971" -which then requires any unfamiliar with that precedent to look it up before discovering the response is "fuck off"
proftomcrick.com/2014/04/29/ar…
Arkell v Pressdram [1971]
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Cainmark Does Not Comply 🚲, Peter, Mark Kahl 🚲🐻🦁🇺🇦🇮🇱, efhastings, Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC und Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA haben dies geteilt.
Zark Muckerburg
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •ˈdälfən™🐬 💥 🌊
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •MATE X
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Robert Berger
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Dear russian dictatorship:
Go fuck yourself, if you are still flexible enough
#taurusforukraine #supportUkraine #PutinIsaWarCriminal
Toni
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Ariel
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Samhain Night hat dies geteilt.
stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Ariel • • •Samhain Night hat dies geteilt.
ari
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •its probably “propaganda” since they call anything they dont agree with “propaganda”
like “lgbt propaganda” and shit, they have whole ass subsections for that
Nazani
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Nobody in Russia is able to read it anyway, right?
Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf Ariel • • •that's not the point
they push to see how far they get
you would be surprised how far people can go just by complaining
they weren't successful here, but they are often successful elsewhere
just by complaining
unfortunately #russia has had some limited success harassing #hetzner in the past:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner#…
however, you'll note the incident at the bottom of the incident list on wikipedia shows that hetzner has taken a new harder line towards russia
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Ben Royce 🇺🇦, Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 , Samhain Night und gwendolenau haben dies geteilt.
Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •BTW
Please feel free to send some fun mails to that address
Keep the fuckers busy for a while
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Roni Laukkarinen, Elon Muksis 🇺🇦 🇪🇺, Klaus Zimmermann (MOVED), Florian Schmidt, Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 , Witchzilla, Maddad ☑️, Samhain Night, your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦, Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor, Keira (She/Her), Mark Kraft und HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 haben dies geteilt.
Quinn Comendant 🐧
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Aurochs
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •the magnificent rhys
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Thank you for posting this and thank you for your excellent response.
There's no end to how insidious Russian manipulation is in trying to shift views, and there's much too much apologia for it online — including on the Fediverse.
Being open and transparent about it like this is super helpful in combating it.
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Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 , Steve 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️, Samhain Night und Maddad ☑️ haben dies geteilt.
Flex Foot
Als Antwort auf the magnificent rhys • • •teilten dies erneut
Samhain Night und Dave Goldsmith haben dies geteilt.
Mystery Babylon
Als Antwort auf Flex Foot • • •Flex Foot
Als Antwort auf Mystery Babylon • • •aliengasmask
Als Antwort auf Flex Foot • • •@FlexFoot @erosdiscordia @rhys there's some chance it's deliberately designed to split society, and run by russian assets. I'm sure things are bad in America but it's in a lot of people's interest to make them appear even worse than they are.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.comMystery Babylon
Als Antwort auf aliengasmask • • •I do think Russian propaganda is in large part designed to cultivate a sense of hopelessness in people, and make them feel like it isn't worth trying to fight back.
The players behind all that crap do have power, but are way weaker than they want anyone to believe.
Mrs Raven
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Toran J. Shaw
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Samhain Night hat dies geteilt.
Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf Toran J. Shaw • • •@toran
the complaint cited the account, not a post
so it's a simple matter of "violated russian law by saying truthful things that hurt our fascist fee fees"
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Samhain Night, Maddad ☑️ und Deep Breath; Start Again haben dies geteilt.
Distante
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •~n
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Urban Hermit
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Well, that's a follow.
I wish I knew the exact post that has them sweating, undoubtedly something true and secret that they didn't think could be implied by evidence.
People who conduct assassinations probably should not let things they are afraid of be known. But they wouldn't be violent if they were clever.
Yeah, fuck you Putler.
Aprazeth
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Koen de Jonge - SynQ • • •SynQ (Koen de Jonge)
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf SynQ (Koen de Jonge) • • •@synq @koen
i would LOVE to do that
But that's what a little "scary" in this case
Zark Muckerburg
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •T. J. Bombadil
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Gnosyz 🖖
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •teilten dies erneut
Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 und Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC haben dies geteilt.
Тр3тий Сергеевич
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •@ZySoua Roskomnadzor. Fuck, they've found out about us.
Maybe we should advise Russian users of mstdn to migrate lest they get DPI'd.
tessarakt
Als Antwort auf Тр3тий Сергеевич • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •If we do need to comply with Hetzner on this, I'm gonna look into an option to get mstdn.social in-home, like literally so they won't be able to touch anything
But that's a last resort since I do not have the hardware not money for that currently
At least there's options just in case
@Bellingcat
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Beowulf
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Guus der Kinderen
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Paul Chambers🚧
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Koen de Jonge - SynQ • • •Koen de Jonge - SynQ
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •💀Maggot McFear💀
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Hetzner has previously taken action re: Russian dealings. So 🤞
lowendbox.com/blog/hetzner-tel…
Hetzner Tells Russian Customers to Get Lost -
raindog308 (LowEndBox.com)Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA hat dies geteilt.
stux⚡
Als Antwort auf 💀Maggot McFear💀 • • •Saibotk ☕
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •txt.file
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •I am evaluating if I can help if you go hosting@not-DataCenter.
Fwd.
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •sparseMatrix 📻
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •joene 🏴🍉
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Stijn Vanhandsaeme
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Kolja
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Chasalin
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Ricardo Harvin
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •snick8484
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Zeppelin Blanc
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •What’s the adequate reply to this email?
Wrong answers only.
I will allow myself to start:
“Since when did gas stations start sending abuse notices?”
The Doctor
Als Antwort auf Zeppelin Blanc • • •Wilfried Klaebe
Als Antwort auf The Doctor • • •@drwho I've seen some fine ASCII art from some .cx site about goats...
@xobb @stux @Bellingcat
Paul Cantrell
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •teilten dies erneut
Paul J Wege hat dies geteilt.
PaulNickson 🕊️
Als Antwort auf Paul Cantrell • • •Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jason Howard
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •FoxVK
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf FoxVK • • •FoxVK
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •ehh Really wonder if anybody expected something to happen or some poor being just got hit by falling sh..-I mean order- so he/she just requested deletinon.
Maybe we can try to order them to get out of ukraine in 24hrs. Or maybe in 72 if they leave some vodka on current possitions...
Josh
Als Antwort auf FoxVK • • •diana 🏳️⚧️🦋🌱
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •crouton
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •martin lentink 🇪🇺 🇺🇦📎
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •BrianKrebs
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Tell them that if they want to contact you they can download a Windows .exe file that functions (allegedly) as random number generator. That is, after all, what they ask others to do who wish to contact them.
krebsonsecurity.com/2021/06/ad…
Adventures in Contacting the Russian FSB
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stux⚡, fogelnet, Nelfaneor, your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦 und Francisca Sinn haben dies geteilt.
stux⚡
Als Antwort auf BrianKrebs • • •@briankrebs Holyy... Wow
I'm surprised this surprises me anymore
Reed Mideke
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Russia fines Google more than entire world's GDP
Graham Fraser (BBC News)⁂Krafty⁂
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Ives
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Thank you for hosting mstdn.social, all the time you put into it, and dealing with harassment like this.
wbftw
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jorge Candeias
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •The best way to fight this?
Each censorship attempt equals a donation to the Ukrainian Armed Forces to whip these mofos' nazi ass.
Telling them so. "Thank you. Your latest attempt at censorship earned x$ for the UAF", or something like that.
jan Anja
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Plsik (born in 320 ppm) 🇨🇿🇺🇦🇵🇸
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Paul Chambers🚧
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Tuckers Nuts Resist! 🇺🇦 hat dies geteilt.
william.maggos
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •but every media outlet should really have their own server on the fedi. this is our killer app for journalistic freedom. why AP should win.
it's why I always bring up @mondoweiss already running their own server. I'm sure they are constantly pissing off the Israeli govt, who will spin such stories as antisemitic and probably convince a few admins of that view.
we can't have access to important stories going viral dictated by a few rich people, VCs or corporate interests.
Lukas Nagel
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •gnate
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Thomas Barrio
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •HarryKrischner
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat @Lazarou
Brandon
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •You know you're doing something right when you get emails from The Kremlin asking to take shit down. Keep up the great work!
@Bellingcat
Nelfaneor
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Koen Martens
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Amos Keppler
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •tessarakt
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •The head of Roskomnadzor is on the EU sanctions list, cf. eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conten…
This action, again performed under his leadership, again "create[s] a censored information space that promotes, aids and condones the Russian armed aggression against Ukraine."
I would propose reporting this to the appropriate Commission service.
EUR-Lex - 02014R0269-20221114 - EN - EUR-Lex
eur-lex.europa.euLars hat dies geteilt.
John
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Bellingcat is welcome to set up a backup account @fairdinkum.one - in fact they should set up dozens all over Mastodon. 👍
P.S. #FuckRussia!
Invite: fairdinkum.one/invite/aNgdcESz
fairdinkum.one
Mastodon hosted on fairdinkum.onesobroquet
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Since when does Russia have any sway on what's posted on Social Media )Bessides X that is.
therecord.media/russia-doubles…
"They are doing it as we sit here."
Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III
"Russia, Russia, Russia, it was all a hoax, fake news"
D. tRump
An Exhaustive Compendium of Russian Collusion & US Election Intrusions and
Propaganda
tinyurl.com/5a3raftm
Kremlin doubled its blocking of independent media sites this year, researchers say
therecord.mediaLars
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Neil Craig
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •I agree with the others on this, roscomnadzor are just trying their luck. They have zero teeth outside Russia.
Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf Gnosyz 🖖 • • •Roskomnazgul is the preferred nomenclature for this evil censorship creature 🤭
Alex
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •@DM_Ronin
Russian warship,
Go fuck yourself
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй
Alternatively:
Российское правительство, иди на хуй
(Russian government, go fuck yourself)
I would also add "Slava Ukraini" to piss them off more.
Maybe I should never write such replies ;)
Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf Alex • • •i prefer the less direct and more casual diss. they are used to direct conflict, but a little patronizing sleaze pisses them off more
something like
"Омич полуёбок, скажи ты наркоман? я просто тоже где то там живу, могли бы вместе уёбывать наркотики"
("Hey, half-fucker guy from Omsk, tell me, are you a junkie? Because I live here somewhere too, we could shoot drugs together")
Maddad ☑️ hat dies geteilt.
dazed and bedpilled
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Lars
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Little Putler doesn't know what to do and tries to intimidate others who disagree with him. Like a small child that nobody wants to play with.
@Bellingcat
fedithom
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Yeah. Now I found out about @Bellingcat
and of course followed them right away 😁
Samhain Night hat dies geteilt.
Paul Chambers🚧
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •slotos
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •might be a good time to campaign for dismantling of the laws designed to enable such abuses.
5 seconds edit: This just reads a lot like DMCA and similar laws all over the globe. Not sure if those applies here though.
41402-nyan
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •didn't knew Bellingcat has a fedi account.
Great PR for them! Followed.
Anikke 🌻 🚴 ♀️ #ichbinantifa
Als Antwort auf 41402-nyan • • •Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •Orcskomnadzor it is then 🤭
jan Anja();
Als Antwort auf Ben Royce 🇺🇦 • • •KawaiiSelbst
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Как бы мне не не нравилось то, как организована работа РКН, и то, какие указания спускаются им сверху.
Но считают отличной дискредитацией самих себя, начав с оскорблений в ответ на вежливое письмо. Даже с учётом того, что в письме действительно нет точного указания, что именно на странице нарушает закон. Начать стоит как минимум с ответного письма с попыткой узнать что именно не так (кто знает, может быть на странице действительно было что то плохое?) И уже не получив ответа начать вонять.
А так вы просто показываете себя как простого невежду.
Lord HeeHaw II
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Ella
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •дай нам всем бог терпения и настойчивости
Brynawel
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Fucking russian clowns.
But that reminds me: The book "We are Bellingcat" is still on my TBR. I will put it on top.
Train YIMBY 🚂
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •penguin42
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Ben Royce 🇺🇦
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •jan Anja();
Als Antwort auf Ben Royce 🇺🇦 • • •David O'Brien
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Good for you, @stux
@Bellingcat
Robert Berger
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Michael Vilain
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •I love asking people who do things for the Russian Government and Putin specifically
What does Putin's dick taste like?
#MAGAIdiots go insane when I ask this. I wonder why.
Botolo
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Botolo
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Koen 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Maddad ☑️
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •😂 😂 😂
Truth ✓
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •💯🏴☠️😎🙌🇺🇸🫵🏽
#saturdayvibes
ꙮ liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Alexis115
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@stux @Bellingcat
AkhIL
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •MissScott01
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •#FediSolidarity
vandorb12
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Forth Co-Processor
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •The fediverse is starting to come under attacks by state actors.
This will not end well. We are not prepared.
StaringAtClouds has moved
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •paulingo
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •book_dragon
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Wolf480pl
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •btw. since you're hosting users likely to be targeted by a government:
After dealing with this abuse request stuff, you might want to take a look at this, if you haven't already: devever.net/~hl/xmpp-incident
chx
Unbekannter Ursprungsbeitrag • • •@trebach @stevel @tobi another good one, albeit longer is Kurt Denke's reply when Monster came knocking on the door of his audio cable company. First he tears them a new one on technical matters then comes *this*
"Not only am I unintimidated by litigation; I sometimes rather miss it."
teilten dies erneut
Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA hat dies geteilt.
Brad Ackerman
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Bill Zaumen
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •"Beria, someone stole my pipe. Find the guy." Beria says, "I'll get right on it." About a half hour later, Stalin calls Beria back and says, "You can call off your dogs. The pipe fell being my desk." Beria says, "What a pity. We have 13 suspects and 12 have already confessed."
jake has moved to mstdn.social
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Half Asleep
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •brot
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •However, given that I heard about at least three instances of "hetzner decided to cancel my contract and deleted my data after just one email", I would advise for backups that are not hosted on hetzner and maybe a rough idea where you would like to host if hetzner drops you.
Also, a good time to get your domain name recovery codes etc etc.
PKPs Powerfromspace1
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Dr. Koala
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •russia and its clownshow of a kleptocratic govt can fuck right off.
TomAoki
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •William Canna-bass
Als Antwort auf chx • • •@chx @trebach @stevel @tobi
I had to look up Collateral Estoppel, so.
#TIL about Non-Mutual-Defensive #CollateralEstoppel where by "a defendant attempts to prevent a plaintiff from re-litigating an issue that was previously decided against the plaintiff in another lawsuit against a different party."
To put it another way, if Mr. Denke's defense was successful, and ruled on in his case, then Monster Cable couldn't attempt to use that failed issue against a different cable manufacturer when Monster Cable sued them for alleged Patent and Trade dress infringement.
(#Source
legaldictionary.net/collateral…
)
Collateral Estoppel - Definition, Examples, Cases, Processes
cydni (Legal Dictionary)cwtshycwtsh
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •What a terrible loss it would be, if CIAcat's account was removed. Better stomp your feet on the ground and show them evil Russians that only US can dictate here.
thegrayzone.com/2018/10/29/sha…
The Grayzone
Mark Ames (The Grayzone)Light
Als Antwort auf cwtshycwtsh • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Light • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf cwtshycwtsh • • •@cwtshycwtsh We do have rules against spreading mis info, what you seem to do here
So yeah
Meet the hammer
FediThing 🏳️🌈
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Good for you Stux! 👏
Thank you for standing up for this, and for telling us about this going on!
This is like... what the Fediverse is made for, that the people who run it and the people who use it are at the same level instead of some weird corporation doing awful stuff behind closed doors..
JustRosy 🇺🇦 hat dies geteilt.
SarsCov2Dude
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •You need to answer with UA poststamps:
"Russian warship, go and f**k yourself" (as reported by worldwide media)
@Bellingcat
Piiieps & Brummm
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •I thought about this case.
1. As others noted: they didn't cite any broken law or offending text. Without any of this, IMHO Hetzner should just drop such a complaint.
2. As @Bellingcat is clearly a journalistic account, they have the protection of Art 5 GG. Even if you're not from Germany, Hetzer is and therefore this applies. Yes, this is meant for the state, but it should be applied to companies as well.
3. Ping some German journalists to push it to the general public.
Bob
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Russian ministry, not sure they have any real power outside their borders at all tbh.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roskom…
Russian government agency
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)sortius
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •in the words of the defenders of Snake Island:
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй
joene 🏴🍉
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jan Penfrat
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Marquise de What 🇨🇦
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jay 🇺🇦
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •No pasarán.
Preston MacDougall
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stony kark
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Peter
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Damn, not that it's needed, but that's one heck of an endorsement.
@Bellingcat
Edwinek
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
❍sz™ 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇬🇪
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Northants Greens
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •streisand effect in
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2
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Out of Print Archive
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •CleoMatra
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •故土异乡人冯灿根🇺🇦🇹🇼
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Yayaeltopian
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Karen E. Lund 💙💛
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Karen E. Lund 💙💛
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •THANK YOU!
That's all.
Badger AF (he/him) DEMOCRACY
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Russia, if you're listening:
go fuck yourself.
Cainmark Does Not Comply 🚲 hat dies geteilt.
Karl Dearnley
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •lopta
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •xs4me2
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •ldvsoft
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •hackbyte (friendica) 13HB1 mag das.
DHeadshot's Alt
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
Tomscimyt ☥
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Teun Vink
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Clemens
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Elias Aarnio
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Acesabe
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat @GossiTheDog
Raccoon🏳️🌈
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •If @Bellingcat needs to go somewhere else, or wants to create a mirror somewhere, there are plenty of servers that would be happy to do so, with hosting companies that will have an immediate middle finger response to any requests for takedowns by the Russian government.
stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Raccoon🏳️🌈 • • •@Raccoon It's no worry 😉
Hetzner is okay with it and just ignores their requests!
mstdn.social/@stux/11366257336…
stux⚡
2024-12-16 12:47:11
dvo dvo
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •NeonkAaa
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •@Bellingcat
SpaceLifeForm
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jay Stephens
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •slotos
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •lord pthenq1
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •WikiParty
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •zeruch
Als Antwort auf chx • • •Byte Trace ⚙️🔗 [Moved]
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •I wonder when the US will start with this, they can expect the exact same answer as the Russians did 😘
It's almost the same thing at this point
teilten dies erneut
Martin Vermeer FCD und GoNancyGo haben dies geteilt.
Laffy
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •stux⚡
Als Antwort auf Laffy • • •@GottaLaff Thank you! So do you! 💪
I do much enjoy replying to such mails to be honest
Feel like im stepping on the right toes
Laffy
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •GoNancyGo
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Karl Dearnley
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •keep up the good work.
Send them my standard reply:
I have given this offer more consideration than it is due already. Now, fuck off. Then keep fucking off. Fuck off until you come up to a gate with a sign saying ‘You Can’t Fuck Off Past Here.’ Climb over the gate, dream the impossible dream, and keep fucking off forever.
Thee Mighty Peculia
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •Capt. Tony
Als Antwort auf stux⚡ • • •