PLEASE BOOST: Right now Mastodon is only receiving appr. $21,000/month through Patreon.

This is not enough to handle the 1 million new accounts that will be made this week.

Currently, only 4,720 patrons are donating to Mastodon.

However, if everyone chips in $2/month, this will ensure the continued survival of Mastodon!

Be a hero! Donate now! patreon.com/mastodon

Als Antwort auf Chris Trottier

To everyone upset that I'm suggesting people DONATE to Mastodon, which is a NON-PROFIT, you can read for yourselves what this funds: the continued development of Mastodon.

That is to say, everyone who runs and maintains a Mastodon instance benefits.

I make no apologies for urging people to donate. This isn't a zero sum game where if someone donates to one cause, they cannot donate to another. Yes, let's spread the wealth around.

But also, let's DONATE to ensure the continued survival of Mastodon because I'm really sure we'd all like it if Mastodon continues to function.

Als Antwort auf Chris Trottier

By the way, I'm now actively blocking anyone coming here to argue about the merits of donating to the NON-PROFIT that builds Mastodon.

It's absolute dirtbag behaviour when Mastodon struggles so much under a #TwitterMigration of millions of users.

Now lets put things into perspective. Last month, Twitter was employing 6,500 people. Mastodon employs 1 person who's working 14 hour days -- and only compensates himself €36,000 a year.

How is one guy supposed to take build the app that replaces Twitter when Twitter pays hundreds of engineers well over $100,000 to do a fraction of the work?

Yeah, other people deserve donations too -- so donate! Be a hero to the person who's running your instance, as well as the person who builds whatever app your instance is running.

And lest you think that I don't bang the drums on donations for other devs, this is not the case.

Last week, I told everyone to donate to @dansup. A couple of days ago, I told everyone to donate to @Are0h who, by the way, is making another app that builds safety features for marginalized communities. And I'm banging the drum all the time on @thatonecalculator@stop.voring.me and his work with Calckey.

But right now, I'm urging people to help out with Mastodon!

So if you have it in your heart to donate to a very good cause -- the continued development and existence of Mastodon -- contribute to Mastodon's Patreon. patreon.com/mastodon

Als Antwort auf Chris Trottier

Someone asks a fair question: How does donating to Mastodon help every other instance?

It means continued funding of Mastodon's app development. Every instance -- which is most of them -- benefits from this.

For example, Mastodon recently added the ability to edit your posts. And not just edit them, allow you to view logs of the edits! This was a paid feature on Twitter, but it's now FREE on Mastodon.

Every instance that updates to Mastodon v4.0 now has the edit feature. Thus everyone who's on an instance that runs Mastodon v4.0 can edit their posts.

There's a lot of additional work Mastodon needs, and this is why donating to the non-profit helps!

Als Antwort auf Chris Trottier

Guy, you talk like Eugen is developing all this by himself.

Mastodon is a community project with lots and LOTS of merge requests.

I will explain this in simple language for you: Other developers develop features and bug corrections and submit their code to the project leader, who is accepting it, after the wider developer community of hobbyists has discussed about the technicalities.

You don’t need millions to *develop* Mastodon.

Maxi 10x 💉 hat dies geteilt.

Als Antwort auf Maxi 10x 💉

He has blocked me for this, lol.
For the other readers: He wrote:

»Right now Mastodon is only receiving appr. $21,000/month through Patreon.

This is not enough to handle the 1 million new accounts that will be made this week.

Currently, only 4,720 patrons are donating to Mastodon.

However, if everyone chips in $2/month, this will ensure the continued survival of Mastodon!«

So he was arguing for $2,000,000 /month, which is insane for the community project in this state.

Als Antwort auf Maxi 10x 💉

@Maxi 5x 💉 @atomicpoet There are others, but Eugen has written and continues to write ~90% of the code in Mastodon.

This is a governance and sustainability problem, and saying that the community wrote and writes Mastodon is pretending that the project is more mature as a project than it actually is.

Als Antwort auf clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

@clacke He doesn’t give credit for lots of code contribution I’ve heard.

I’m not saying the Mastodon project shouldn’t get funded. Just that this project isn’t the Mastodon federation and confusing the project with M•social and M•online instances is clueless.

Als Antwort auf Maxi 10x 💉

@Maxi 5x 💉 I wish that development were more distributed, and if that is your point, that one should consider the immature project structure and the BDFL-style governance before donating, I agree with you.

If your point is "money to Mastodon GmbH only benefits mastodon.social and mastodon.online" I think I am correct in saying that you are plain wrong.

Als Antwort auf clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

No, again: I’m not arguing against donating to the project at all. But I’m arguing against this narrative that it’s the upmost important to support the gGmbH before your own instance. He has painted the circumstances as if "supporting all of Mastodon" is the same as supporting the development and was confusing the Mastodon federation of all instances with Eugen’s too big instances, portraying it like a monolithic offering.
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Als Antwort auf Maxi 10x 💉

@Maxi 5x 💉 On this we agree. Supporting your instance is important.

But @Chris Trottier isn't arguing against that either, on the contrary. If you're using a Mastodon instance, support the instance and support Mastodon. That's the message.

As noted elsewhere in the thread, if one doesn't want to donate to Mastodon, one could instead donate to e.g. patreon.com/tinysubversions , which will be used among other things to improve Hometown, improvements to which will potentially support upstream Mastodon as well and benefit everyone using any Mastodon fork that tracks upstream.

@nightpool Is there a way to contribute financially to glitch-soc development? I can't seem to find one.

Als Antwort auf Chris Trottier

Hi Chris, I have absolutely no issue with donating for Mastodon here, but just so that I understand - what are the cost drivers for Mastodon with 1 million new users? Is that not a strain that will mostly go to the different instances where the users will create accounts? Or _is_ there some central element in place that will be cost-drivers? Just curious, thanks for sharing so much great info in your different feeds. Best regards from Oslo, Norway.
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Sanne Hoekstra

Jon, there are 2 parts to this.
1: the non-profit organization developing the Mastodon software.
2: the server admin hosting and maintaining the mastodon instance you are registered on.

Both are non-profit and rely on donations to do their respective part.

Als Antwort auf Sanne Hoekstra

Just realized I had yet to donate to @Are0h. Just fixed that oversight.

Now I'm contributing to his Patreon because I believe in what he's building.

While we're at it, why don't you all help him build his Fipamo app? patreon.com/Are0h

@Ro
Als Antwort auf clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

The 12 kUSD/month goal at patreon.com/mastodon says multiple devs and designers, but if this is happening it's not communicated very well.

@redcat @atomicpoet

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@Puniko 😺 :verifiedsabakan: :verified_cool: It's fairly distributed among Eugen obviously. Others write PRs, but he's The Project.

Tell us when you see something published about bounties, hiring devs, etc. I haven't seen it.

@Martin Steiger ✅ @atomicpoet @Pharom